Birdie Pets

Sorry, I know FS don't belong here.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > No, the problem is that people expect others to be supportive at all > > times- > > > even when they are being selfish, using poor judgment, stupid, etc. > > People > > > don’t exist to yes-man you; if that’s what you need you have an > insecurity > > > problem. > > That’s what these ass kissing rpb-ers need to realize. > Don’t think there was much ass kissing, Jynxster. Otherwise, the OP > wouldn’t > be whining about the flaming she got. > — >   Mama > Did I say "these ass kissing responders to this thread" or "these ass > kissing rpb-ers"?

I know what you said and I read it as a blanket statement meaning ALL rpb-ers are ass kissers. —   Mama ~^~^~^~   Visit Mamabird’s Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/>                          -To email me: change nest to net- "It is not only fine feathers that make fine birds." – Aesop

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> > No, the problem is that people expect others to be supportive at all > times- > even when they are being selfish, using poor judgment, stupid, etc. > People > don’t exist to yes-man you; if that’s what you need you have an insecurity > problem. > That’s what these ass kissing rpb-ers need to realize.

Don’t think there was much ass kissing, Jynxster. Otherwise, the OP wouldn’t be whining about the flaming she got. —   Mama ~^~^~^~   Visit Mamabird’s Nest: <http://iluvbirds.tripod.com/>                          -To email me: change nest to net- "It is not only fine feathers that make fine birds." – Aesop

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > No, the problem is that people expect others to be supportive at all > times- > > even when they are being selfish, using poor judgment, stupid, etc. > People > > don’t exist to yes-man you; if that’s what you need you have an > insecurity > > problem. > That’s what these ass kissing rpb-ers need to realize. > Don’t think there was much ass kissing, Jynxster. Otherwise, the OP wouldn’t > be whining about the flaming she got. > — >   Mama

Did I say "these ass kissing responders to this thread" or "these ass kissing rpb-ers"? — –Jynx– Do something about ‘yourattitude’ to reply via e-mail

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You might be a lot better off finding a bird club in your area. They sometimes have bird adoption programs or you might be able to work out a trade if you are absolutely sure you want to give up the birds you have now. You will hopefully find people who really care about birds there as opposed to just advertising to the public. I’ve taken this route for a friend recently who has to find new homes for two of her birds due to her health problems. Dave

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> But, I need to sell these birds. ~ 5 yr. old male(?) Nanday. Need to sell or > trade. Would sell for $200.00 obo w/cage or 150.00 obo w/out cage. I think he’d > be a better breeder. Bites when on/in cage. Or would like to trade for ????. > ~Also, I have my son’s 8 month old white faced tiel. I don’t have the time for > her. Must sell. $100.00 obo w/nice green & white cage.

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>My OWA was 6 months old when I got him. He’s a year old now. He went through 8 >owners before me. He was a "cage bird." The meanest thing you’d ever see. drew >lots of blood.  Well, now, he’s semi-tame. he comes to me, let’s me pet him. >He even wants & likes me to rub his tounge now.  He now talks to me instead of >screaming all the time. I’ve worked very hard with my birds. The Nanday, I >think, might just want to breed. I’m not sure. I don’t have my birds for >breeding. They are my pets. Most of my birds are attached to me. My kids >thought they could do the same. Well, without working with them, it won’t >happen.

If you turned your OWA around like that, I’m sure you would be able to work with the Nanday.  ALL birds go through harmonal stages where they "want to breed."  Amazons are notorious for their harmonal moodiness. I really think you could end up with a fine pet and teach your children a lesson in responsibility and pet ownership if you decide to keep the bird instead of giving/selling/trading it.  And as I said eariler, whatever bird you trade for/buy may end up with just as many problems and require just as much interaction, taming, and work as the Nanday, so why not work with the Nanday?  You’ve already got him. Save him the stress of moving to a new place, etc.  How old are your kids?  If they are old enough, make them take a part in training the bird.  I know you said they don’t have an interest in the bird anymore, but if they could help turn him around, that may change.  At the very least, it will be an important lesson and they won’t get a pet in the future until they are more prepared. I really don’t think selling or trading is the best thing for the bird or your family.  Unless there is more that you aren’t telling us, of course.  But from what I gather, it just sounds like a) the bird needs to be worked with some more and b) your children could learn a valuable lesson if you keep the birds. Stacy http://www.stacyinthecity.com http://www.frogduck.com

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No, it’s not that I can’t afford the meds. It’s the point of having the bird "drugged up." You are probably the type that would push your kid to Ritalin. That is not the solution! There has to be another way. (without drugs) If he needed an antibiotic or something, that’s a different story. It’s to  cure/help the problem.

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> No, the problem is that people expect others to be supportive at all times- > even when they are being selfish, using poor judgment, stupid, etc. People > don’t exist to yes-man you; if that’s what you need you have an insecurity > problem.

That’s what these ass kissing rpb-ers need to realize. > Bottom line- don’t get rid of birds ’cause you are bored with them and don’t > get rid of your children’s pets because they won’t take care of them.  Any

Yes!!!  It’s much much better to keep and neglect a pet you don’t want than to find it a good home where it could thrive. > parent who expects their child to take full responsibility for a pet is a > fool.

True, but only because such a parent doesn’t want the pet but has been trained by a child to give him/her whatever s/he wants. > The animal shelters are full to bursting with pets who have been > thrown away because kids didn’t accept responsibility for them.

Animals should be put down within minutes of arriving at a shelter. > And what’s wrong w/ birdie prozac?

What’s right about it? >  Was it too expensive for you or do you > oppose prozac in general?  If it was too expensive what are you going to do > if you get another bird and it has medical problems?  Throw that one away > too?

Treating a medical problem medically is quite different than treating an unwanted behavior medically > Oops- sorry. The words are trade or sell.  Pets are just property, > right?

That’s right. — –Jynx– Do something about ‘yourattitude’ to reply via e-mail

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>Bottom line- don’t get rid of birds ’cause you are bored with them and don’t >get rid of your children’s pets because they won’t take care of them.  Any >parent who expects their child to take full responsibility for a pet is a >fool.  The animal shelters are full to bursting with pets who have been >thrown away because kids didn’t accept responsibility for them.

I think you’re missing something here. Instead of dumping the bird off at a shelter he posted it here where someone who is capable of taking care of him may respond. Personally I wouldn’t give up a bird, no matter how many lived here, expect in 3 conditions: 1- I was unable to give him/her some kind of special attention needed (medical condition, for example), in which case I would find a suitable parent who could. 2- It was a found bird and the owner was correctly identified. 3- He/she met someone and just couldn’t be without the person/other bird. This has actually happened to me before, though I was the other person involved. My grandmother had an albino parakeet that took a liking to me and would go nuts every time I went to visit, then would scream for days when I left. Eventually we bought my grandmother a new baby and adopted the albino, who moved in with Bird, our parakeet. Got a few batches of eggs, but, unfortunately, never any babies. The point of all this? First, never let me play on the computer while on painkillers. Second, responsible animal parenting sometimes does mean knowing when to let one go to a new home.

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I did ask the vet for help. She’s an avian vet, by the way. Do you know her suggestion? "Birdie Prozac." Well, after all the responses I’ve got, I now realize why people are afraid to post here. Most of you are out to flame someone instead of help them. Thank you to those who did try to help me out. That’s what’s wrong with this world today. Just too much criticism.

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No, the problem is that people expect others to be supportive at all times- even when they are being selfish, using poor judgment, stupid, etc.  People don’t exist to yes-man you; if that’s what you need you have an insecurity problem. Bottom line- don’t get rid of birds ’cause you are bored with them and don’t get rid of your children’s pets because they won’t take care of them.  Any parent who expects their child to take full responsibility for a pet is a fool.  The animal shelters are full to bursting with pets who have been thrown away because kids didn’t accept responsibility for them. And what’s wrong w/ birdie prozac?  Was it too expensive for you or do you oppose prozac in general?  If it was too expensive what are you going to do if you get another bird and it has medical problems?  Throw that one away too? Oops- sorry. The words are trade or sell.  Pets are just property, right?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I did ask the vet for help. She’s an avian vet, by the way. Do you know her > suggestion? "Birdie Prozac." Well, after all the responses I’ve got, I now > realize why people are afraid to post here. Most of you are out to flame > someone instead of help them. Thank you to those who did try to help me out. > That’s what’s wrong with this world today. Just too much criticism.

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My OWA was 6 months old when I got him. He’s a year old now. He went through 8 owners before me. He was a "cage bird." The meanest thing you’d ever see. drew lots of blood.  Well, now, he’s semi-tame. he comes to me, let’s me pet him. He even wants & likes me to rub his tounge now.  He now talks to me instead of screaming all the time. I’ve worked very hard with my birds. The Nanday, I think, might just want to breed. I’m not sure. I don’t have my birds for breeding. They are my pets. Most of my birds are attached to me. My kids thought they could do the same. Well, without working with them, it won’t happen.

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But, I need to sell these birds. ~ 5 yr. old male(?) Nanday. Need to sell or trade. Would sell for $200.00 obo w/cage or 150.00 obo w/out cage. I think he’d be a better breeder. Bites when on/in cage. Or would like to trade for ????. ~Also, I have my son’s 8 month old white faced tiel. I don’t have the time for her. Must sell. $100.00 obo w/nice green & white cage.

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>But, I need to sell these birds. ~ 5 yr. old male(?) Nanday. Need to sell or >trade. Would sell for $200.00 obo w/cage or 150.00 obo w/out cage. I think he’d >be a better breeder. Bites when on/in cage. Or would like to trade for ????. >~Also, I have my son’s 8 month old white faced tiel. I don’t have the time for >her. Must sell. $100.00 obo w/nice green & white cage.

What would you trade for?  You don’t have time for your current birds, so are you looking for supplies or…? Stacy http://www.stacyinthecity.com http://www.frogduck.com

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> But, I need to sell these birds. ~ 5 yr. old male(?) Nanday. Need to sell or > trade. Would sell for $200.00 obo w/cage or 150.00 obo w/out cage. I think he’d > be a better breeder. Bites when on/in cage. Or would like to trade for ????. > ~Also, I have my son’s 8 month old white faced tiel. I don’t have the time for > her. Must sell. $100.00 obo w/nice green & white cage.

You might have better luck if you mention your city & state.   Shipping birds is a hassle and not pleasant for them either. Best of luck selling them.  Sounds like they could use a good home. — Lou Boyd

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These two are birds that my kids bought & then lost interest. I know, I know. I shouldn’t have let them get them. The Nanday doesn’t like me. Only likes to bite me. lol. The old saying, "you shouldn’t bite the hand that feeds ya."  I love my birds! They get regular vet checks & eat better than I do. They all have extra large cages, and playstands all over my house.  I have other Conures & an Orange Wing.  Well, I’m in Erie Co., Pa. and I would be willing to trade the Nanday for something friendlier.

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Maybe she’d trade for a stuffed bird, but I’d be willing to bet she’s just bored with the birds she has and wants something different.  She apparently doesn’t like the conure and the kid won’t take care of the tiel (as though any kid would.)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->But, I need to sell these birds. ~ 5 yr. old male(?) Nanday. Need to sell or >trade. Would sell for $200.00 obo w/cage or 150.00 obo w/out cage. I think he’d >be a better breeder. Bites when on/in cage. Or would like to trade for ????. >~Also, I have my son’s 8 month old white faced tiel. I don’t have the time for >her. Must sell. $100.00 obo w/nice green & white cage. > What would you trade for?  You don’t have time for your current birds, > so are you looking for supplies or…? > Stacy > http://www.stacyinthecity.com > http://www.frogduck.com

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>These two are birds that my kids bought & then lost interest. I know, I know. I >shouldn’t have let them get them. The Nanday doesn’t like me. Only likes to >bite me. lol. The old saying, "you shouldn’t bite the hand that feeds ya."  I >love my birds! They get regular vet checks & eat better than I do. They all >have extra large cages, and playstands all over my house.  I have other Conures >& an Orange Wing.  Well, I’m in Erie Co., Pa. and I would be willing to trade >the Nanday for something friendlier.

I’m sure with some work, the Nanday will become tame!  If you don’t have time to tame him, you probably won’t have time to get another bird.  There are lots of great books about parrot behavior and stopping biting, etc.  You should look into that before you deem the Nanday a lost cost.  You seem to like birds a lot, and that is great, but some birds require a lot of work.  There is no promise that whatever new bird you trade the Nanday for won’t go through a bad nipping stage either. Set an example for your kids.  You loose interest in a bird?  Too bad. When you get an animal, its for that animal’s life.  How old are the kids?  The kids could probably learn some responsibility, and you setting a wonderful example is the best place to start. BTW, I started my love of birds as a 10 year old.  I had 2 budgies.  I bought their food and supplies, I cleaned their cage and gave them fresh food and water, I tamed them and played with them.  When our family went on vacations, I paid the pet sitter with my own money.  It was the best way to learn responsibility. Stacy http://www.stacyinthecity.com http://www.frogduck.com

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